BrunoWilimek

The one I did, I just loosened the turbo hold-down bolts and the pump did come out, using a bit of care to not move the turbos too far, thus avoiding a future leak. Yes, I know Ford says to remove the turbos, but seemed like such a lot of extra unnecessary work. That was about 6 months ago and truck has not returned.

We had a customer with an 03 that had at least 4 of the injectors loose their nuts over a period of time. He put over 600,000km(373,000Miles)on it. Lotsa problems with turbos, egr valves etc. Never had the heads off it. He hauls new travel trailers all over North America and finally traded it in on a new 07. I believe the root cause of the injector failures to be low fuel pressure. The fuel acts like a cushion inside the injector between the housing and the intensifier piston. Low fuel pressure means that metal to metal contact can take place inside the injector, causing the nuts to vibrate loose and eventually fall off. I was able to find most of the nuts. The rest must still be in the oil pan. Hotline didn't seem overly concerned if I couldn't fish them out. These diesels suck so hard they will actually run without an operating fuel pump, as I found out on an aborted road test after replacing the fuel filters. I would definitely re-check the fuel pressure and confirm that the fuel pump is working properly and input sock in the tank is not restricted. Do the EGR test using the IDS to determine the cause of your EGR codes. As long as the truck is properly maintained and driven, I don't see why it shouldn't go a long way further, However, it is a 6.0, so no guarantees. as far as leaving the EGR valve disconnected, I wouldn't do that as it acts as a wastegate to prevent overboost if the turbo sticks.

I had never heard of it either, so I googled it to find out. It is the International Automotive Technicians network. The website is http://www.iatn.net/

I have had no personal experience on this issue, however, have read numerous reports of this concern on Pro-tech. I searched it and the results are in as follows. Number 1 cause is head gaskets, followed by plugged oil and EGR coolers, and also plugged waterpump or cylinder head ports in the block. Good luck.

Thanks, Larry. I will keep you guys in mind. It's great having a resource like that as no one tech can possibly know(or remember)everything. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

This proceedure is actually in the PCED. The amount of fuel leaking out is actually quite minimal as the proceedure involves disconnecting the injector main connectors at the front of the heads and only cranking the engine using the starter.

I haven't put in a bum one, yet, but other techs on Pro-tech have noted this happening. As Larry said, probably got them in Mexico or China.

I read an informative article a while back about intake and exhaust system modifications. The conclusion it came to was that any air filter or catback exhaust system could not improve the airflow in or out of an engine unless the stock system was restricted in those areas. It noted that complete intake or exhaust system upgrades would likely be required to see any power or economy improvements.

I have not yet encountered this in an 08 S.D. We have at least 2 of them with plows that we service. I would be looking for something that directs water to the top of the reservoir cap, possibly something out of place or a part related to the plow that is installed in such a manner as to direct water/snow to the cap. I have seen this problem before on Aerostars(remember those),that had a rubber cowl drain tube that was secured only with a flimsy plastic clamp. If the drain plugged up, making the tube heavy, or the tube fell off for any other reason, the cowl drained directly onto the P.S. reservoir cap.

We also work on whatever makes it to our dealership. I spent about 2 weeks last summer going over a 73 Mustang to get it ready for the 150th anniversary parade in our town. I had to rebuild the carb, replace the distributor(it was seized in the block and I had to destroy it to get it out, just to set the timing), replace the gas tank and sender due to corrosion issues, replace the header gaskets, etc. Our D.P. bought 6-1966 Mustangs late last year. 5 from an estate, including a 1966 Shelby. The other one he bought on E-Bay from California. It is a 6 cylinder that he plans to turn into a vintage racer. It and the Shelby have been stripped to the bare bodies, sent out to be dipped and are presently at a body shop being prepped and painted for reassembly. He bought a rotisserie and had a cart made up to roll the bodies around on while stripped. Also, he resurrected a 1953 International van that originally belonged to his grandfather. Our oldest tech re-built and installed the engine, transmission, fuel tank and wiring to the restored frame to allow it to run. The body is also being finished at a local body shop. It is nice to be able to see these projects come together from a rusty piece of junk to a work of art. I am glad to work at a dealership where more than just everyday drivers are worked on.

Thanks. I wondered if maybe the ports were larger on the 7.3, but numbers would tell us if the casting was the same.

TSB 07-24-04 still applies to these 08 trucks. It involves removing the mushroom vent cap from the fuel tank and replacing it with a length of hose. The vent cap is in a location that allows melting snow to pool and be sucked in as water into the fuel tank. This may help keep the problem from re-occurring.

There is always a reason for the speed limiter. Mid 90's Aerostars were limited to about 140 KPH because they had a driveline vibration above that. 97 Explorers were limited to 170kph because the tires were only good for 180kph(10 kph margin of safety). Whatever the reason, if you do not do something to upgrade the system that is used to set the limit, it is not wise to bypass the limiter(if it is possible to do so with a chip or whatever).

I realize the problem has already been found, but I wanted to post what I find works even better than a vacuum pump is to hook up the smoke machine(used for evap testing)to the vacuum port on the hub. Watch for the smoke and you have found your leak(s).

You guys just made my day. Keep the laughs coming. It's hilarious what some of these FSE's come up with. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif

Thanks. guys for your quick responses. That is about what I suspected. I don't know why he wants to do this swap other than he has a complete 7.3 and the truck has a 6.9 in it, but I try to keep our customers happy. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

Our parts man asked me if the intake manifold from a 7.3 IDI would retrofit to a 6.9 IDI. Apparently the gasket is the same. This question came from a customer. I don't have a lot of 6.9 and 7.3 IDI experience. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif

Thanks. Much obliged. Have I said yet how much I like this website? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

I just checked on this recall and they have not published labour ops yet. Anyone know how much they are going to pay? We have a lot of Mustangs on the lot and it is slow, so it would be nice to get them done. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif

Thanks, Jim. I actually joined back in 06, but then only used the site for reference until Keith e-mailed me in November. I had a few posts back then, but then other stuff came up, until you jogged my memory with your pro-tech posting. Glad to be aboard.

I too have had run-ins with Rick Impey. He used to find all my boo-boos and rub my nose in them on inford, until I caught him giving a dumbass reply to someone's post and called him on it. I may not know it all, but at least I'm trying to be helpful. I also wish the "super techs" of this world would leave off posting their miraculous times on inford for everyone to see as SLTS keep coming down because of it. I have learned in this trade, it is better to take longer to do the job and do it right the first time, than to have to do it twice(and not get paid for the second time). As far as warranty, well, we are currently trying to get paid for a 6.0 turbo replacement job I completed back in the fall. A new R.O. was made up recently as the old one had been left too long. The warranty clerk has returned the R.O. at least 6 times to be corrected. They seem to want to deny the claim, by finding niggling things to single out. The original TSB for turbo cleaning/replacement has been superseded recently and this is one of the things they used to return the claim. They wanted me to use the labour codes for the new TSB 08-04-07 instead of the old one. When I picked the code that matched the time paid, they wanted to know why I hadn't replaced the VPS kit. Duh! the old TSB didn't have me do that. I then pointed out to the warranty clerk that the R.O. date was before the new TSB came out. The next time the clerk didn't even bother coming to me(she went to another tech) when they wanted to know why the CAC hose was replaced. No labour charged as I had to re/re it to re/re turbo, but it was torn due to overboost, so I replaced it. That should have been on a separate line, apparently. I have wasted so much time trying to get our dealership paid for a job that has been done for 6 months. Just pay the damn claim, for heaven's sake!!! I am glad to be able to vent. This site rocks!!!

If memory serves correctly, Ford has reconsidered and is now putting spares back in 08 Foci. I think it was only the 2dr coupes that had the spare deleted. I agree with the previous postings about spares being overlooked and usually underinflated. If they were installed so that it was easy to get air into them, maybe more techs would check them during regular services. I only bother to check the ones that I don't have to work to get at.

All the turbo's I have taken apart were rusty, not coked. "Lot Rot" likely.

As far as I am concerned, what Ford doesn't know, won't hurt em. I would never do major engine work on an F-series truck without lifting the cab. I just don't tell Ford. I code as if I were doing the job the Ford prescribed way, and usually can do the job in less time, or not much over the book time as found in SLTS. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif