Steve Mutter Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Has anyone tilted the cab and jacked the engine up so that they could get the upper pan out. Just wondering if this is possible or even worth it to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddieseldoctor Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 No. I’ve always dropped the trans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@PTT_W_ARod Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The upper pan is sandwiched between the block, I am finding it kind of hard to believe that doing it that way would even be possible. To slide that fucker out, YOU need the trans out.......am I missing something???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I think guys are doing a partial cab lift that will give enough height to jack the engine up far enough to drop and remove the upper pan. With what needs to be disconnected to do that it would be quicker than pulling the trans. Cant say first hand though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I have taken cab off and done it that way once. I had heard about guys saying it was a great way to do it. I had a f550 I couldn't lift and decided to give it a shot that way. After doing it that way my conclusion was it works Ok but not worth it. I previously have removed engine when I was unable to lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Yes, it works and you can save time. I actually just did it for the first time. A partial cab lift will allow you to get the pan out with the transmission in place. I didn't have help or any notes so I had to figure out the details - I disconnect NOTHING to lift the cab, removed all cab mount bolts but the rear which I loosened and lifted the cab enough to get two 2X4's between the front mount and cab. That still did not give me enough room so I had to disconnect the trans mount and jack it up as well. and the pan juuuuust squeaked out. The next one I will remove all cab mount bolts and raise the cab evenly which should provide the extra space. I never did this repair in book time... I did with the cab lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Did you put the 2x4 on edge in front or flat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 On the flat - two of them stacked. Any higher then you have to start disconnecting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I just completed. I took all cab bolts out put 2x4 flat under front and rear cab mounts. I was unable to get the pan out even with trans pushed up. I put the front 2x4 on edge and pushed the engine up then got the pan out. It was a tight fit but got it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I also noted that cleaning the block was not really any more difficult with the transmission in place. The usual fastidious approach to cleanliness applies. And on that note, I usually start the job by getting it to operating temp and putting it on the lift and draining the oil, removing the oil filter and draining the coolant before I go home. I also prefer allowing the sealant extra time to set up... over night. God this engineering/money saving blunder pisses me off. It's the new millennium. Ford should have figured out how to seal a fucking engine by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddieseldoctor Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Are you guys checking for excessive crankcase pressure when you do them? I had one come back less than 10k later and it was worse than before. I popped the oil cap off with it running and there was enough pressure there that it went pop when I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, forddieseldoctor said: Are you guys checking for excessive crankcase pressure when you do them? I had one come back less than 10k later and it was worse than before. I popped the oil cap off with it running and there was enough pressure there that it went pop when I did. I do - especially the high engine hour/idle hour most of which are municipal, state or public utility trucks. They all get a new CCV as per TSB 19-2142 TSB 19-2142.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I replace ccv on everyone. On 4/4/2021 at 8:30 AM, Keith Browning said: I do - especially the high engine hour/idle hour most of which are municipal, state or public utility trucks. They all get a new CCV as per TSB 19-2142 TSB 19-2142.pdf 64.68 kB · 2 downloads On 4/4/2021 at 8:25 AM, forddieseldoctor said: Are you guys checking for excessive crankcase pressure when you do them? I had one come back less than 10k later and it was worse than before. I popped the oil cap off with it running and there was enough pressure there that it went pop when I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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