Brad Clayton Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Here is just a couple of quick photos I took of the 64 with cab on. I can't get them into the DTS at the moment so I am importing them from Photobucket and I will move them permanently later. The chain is bolted down with the 2 large turbo pedestal bolts. This thing comes out easier than a 6.0L, it doesn't even touch the firewall insulation! I've got this cab lifted with 2x4's so it's only up about 3 1/2 inches. My pan is dragging a bit on the number 1 cross member. I put a piece of cardboard down on the way back in. Dunnage tops make an awesome temporary work bench! Somebody order up a cooling stack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 holy shit! you mean that pile of aluminum will come out in one piece!! did you use an engine hoist for it all? I cant wait to see our other guys face when I try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Me and another guy lifted it out. This is the way Ford originally designed it to be removed way back in the day. I didn't need to replace anything, just needed the mess out of the way. It's actually not that heavy with 1 person on each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Wow I never realized that, I've only ever removed pieces one at a time for a rad replacement. It seems like this would be the deal for doing front covers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It seems like this would be the deal for doing front covers though. Front covers can be done quite easily without removing any of the cooling module components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm a little apprehensive about laying over that radiator, she is fragile enough as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Nice writeup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 I want to reiterate that this would not have been an idea for me if I hadn't spoke with Leon. I was having a major brain fart on how to hook the chain up. He set me straight and it was easy peasy after that. It makes total sense to center the chain in the motor and I can't believe I was having trouble coming up with the idea. This is how I used to pick 7.3's out of E boxes, it is how we lift 6.7's now, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Using cardboard when putting it back in is a must. That and gravity help it slide right into place with little to no effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I want to reiterate that this would not have been an idea for me if I hadn't spoke with Leon. I was having a major brain fart on how to hook the chain up. He set me straight and it was easy peasy after that. It makes total sense to center the chain in the motor and I can't believe I was having trouble coming up with the idea. This is how I used to pick 7.3's out of E boxes, it is how we lift 6.7's now, ect. There have been others posting this technique, one guy pulls them with the fan and diffuser still attached. I can't take all the credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikill Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Lifting the cab a little probably helps alot but they can be removed without lifting the cab a few inches as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mutter Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 How would you do that. Lift up and remove the oil pan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikill Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 How would you do that. Lift up and remove the oil pan? Nope engine stays together. It rolls out if you know what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Originally Posted By: Mutter How would you do that. Lift up and remove the oil pan? Nope engine stays together. It rolls out if you know what I mean That's fine coming out if the pan is protected. Putting it back in that way is another story. It would be quicker to pull 6 cab bolts than to force the engine to tilt that far forward before sliding it back in. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikill Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well sometimes you are unable to lift the cab at all with certain racks built on top of the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 All you need is an inch behind and about 2 inches above the cab, and it will lift the 4 inches in the front needed to slide the engine out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 yep found that one out. One of the truck shops down the street insists on having roof racks even on there damn 6.4s. It was just a partial lift for an up-pipe and they all wanted to know how I did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikill Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 All you need is an inch behind and about 2 inches above the cab, and it will lift the 4 inches in the front needed to slide the engine out. I would definitely lift the cab a few inches to help clear but the only one that I did the rack was sitting on the roof. Either way if youre careful then there shouldn't be any oil pan damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Now I am wavering on the whole "Leave the cab on idea." The last 2 cab lifts I have done were flawless. Both for short blocks, because I don't use the engine stand for anything but bed plates now, with the floor slope of our new shop it is a PITA to torque heads without the stand rolling away on me, so I do all the disassembly and assembly in chassis now. I guess it will all come down to whether or not I can actually lift the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I don't use the engine stand for anything but bed plates now, with the floor slope of our new shop it is a PITA to torque heads without the stand rolling away on me That would make a funny Benny Hill skit. I could just picture some tech running down a hilly street chasing an engine on a stand with torque wrench in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Benny Hill, Keith, you are really dating yourself there. Funny thing is, I remember Benny Hill as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 this one is my favorite.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmantech Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Benny Hill now that was great ENTERTAINMENT. I can see the chase in my head now.....cool Now I am going to be whistling that theme song all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Benny who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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