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the beer will flow freely tonight, lol. it just still baffles me. i always use antisieze on exhaust threads, or any other thread i feel has the potential to cause a problem, and heat, well this egt sensor finally puddled itself into the dpf. why can't the factory impose the same practices we use every day? can you tell i'm having a bad day?

are engineers really this retarded? the last 3 egt sensors i have tried to change have all been welded to the dpf of cat. and these are nowhere near high milers. a job that should take 3 minutes ends up taking hours. the one i attempted to remove this morning is now getting a $3000 dpf that is 7 days away because an $80 sensor is welded to it. we are currently in the red on our 126's so every major repair needs some backup and justification. so i called hotline on this, "heat it with a torch until it is almost melting hot, if it won't come out then, you will never get it out. install a new dpf". and ford wonders why they are in financial trouble, and sooo many dealers have high 126's. rant over.

the tar sands. so it pretty much goes like this, we have shitloads of oil trapped in the sand all over northern alberta and saskatchewan. we have billions of dollars worth of infastructure and manpower pulling this crap out of the ground and seperating it from the sand. we pollute and spend like crazy to get this done(but money is no object), then our government takes it up the ass so the oil companies can make more money, and very little of the profit actually comes back to us. then all the partially refined oil is shipped to the u.s.. then it is further refined and sold back to us(we bend over here again too, no lube even) and then we pay out the ass for a product that came out of our own back yard. but on the bright side, there are a shitload of lifted superduties around here to break down.

turkey day, ours is long gone. i'm swapping out a 6.4 shortblock today and tomorrow.

yeah, it would have been nice to know. and i guess the kits would have saved 3 injectors, the other 3 were tore up pretty bad. the other issue with that is those kits are not readily available where i am at.

I'll start off by saying we all make mistakes, and shit happens. all we can try to do is make things right for the customer, and sometimes that means the dealer eats a bill(the lovely service policy account). anyway, long story short, good customer was working out of town for a few months, took his '04 6.0(300,000km) into the local dealer for a rough run, smoking concern. the dealer sells him 8 injectors, fuel filters, an egr valve and a turbo clean all on one bill(cha ching), and attributes the failure to poor fuel/lack of maintainance(which is a load as far as i'm concerned knowing this customer) but whatever. fast forward 8 weeks and about 25,000km. truck comes in to me for a no start hot, low icp. testing narrows it down to a leak on the lh bank. found #4 and #8 injectors have broken snap rings and missing seals. upon further inspection found that #2 and #6 also had very slight o-ring damage where the rail goes in(but snap rings were still intact). installed 4 injectors, and retested for air leaks, all seemed good. road tested truck, shut it off hot and attempted restart. no go. air test, now i have a leak on the rh side. again, 2 injectors with o-ring damage. installed 2 more injectors on rh side. road test. all good now. 3 days later, customer calls, truck is acting up again. same thing low icp. this time no air leaks, but found the screen off the ipr was sucked off. replaced the ipr and all good. so now the custome has a $4000+ bill from us. i was not aware of the previous repair until he came to pay the bill yesterday. so now i say, hold the phone. you had 8 injectors replaced at another dealer 25,000km ago. my gut tells me poor installation of the oil rails at the previous dealer. so i tell him to make a call, the dealer shuts him down. so i make a call, and they shut me down, no way did we screw up he says, we do lots of injectors without a problem. i really can't see anything else causing this type of failure. i even called hotline, and it was pretty much a straight up "poor installation" response. it is a shame that a customer gets raped once by another dealer, and then we have to charge him again to do the same repair over. i never like to call out another dealer or tech, but mistakes get made. he is now considering legal action all because someone is too proud to possibly admit they may have made a mistake. what do you guys think? can anyone else come up with some other explanation of the failure?

you can also just do a quick resistance test. most block heaters are in the 18-30ohm range. we also built a block heater tester out of an old trouble light. it plugs in series between the block heater and the wall outlet. if the light lights up, everything should be good.

not sure but i have one in my bay with #2 and #8 bent connecting rods(no holes mind you)

Quote: Would it be easier to just pull the cab? yes

that is too bad. i know alberta is a bit different than the rest of the country as far as the so called work force goes, and i have never lived anywhere else so all i have to go on is hear say about the east, but you ALWAYS need to look out for #1. i have been at the same store since i started in the wash bay in 1996. a few times i have thought about leaving, but i always communicated my problems and feelings with my dp first, and we always came to some sort of a conclusion that seemed to benifit the both of us(and it isn't always about pay). we used to be some what unionized as well. we had a base j-man rate, and every tech got $0.50 per completed specialty. it sounded good, but my theory is anyone can complete the fmt's and show up for a classroom course a few time a year, but unless you are putting that knowledge to use what good is it. so i went to the dp and expressed my thoughts. i compared our shop to a hockey team. every team has a few superstars, leaders, and role models. every team also has a few average run of mill guys, and every team has the 4th liners that have a certain role so to speak. how do you think the crosby's and the iginla's would react if the nhl decied they were just going to treat everyone the same? no rewards for hard work and leadership skills. no reward for being a bit better than the guy beside you, although maybe no fault of his own. so i suggested an nhl style of pay, rewards for hard work and skill(with quarterly reviews), and the role guys would never be punished just because they aren't a superstar. we have 2 easy to understand systems, the tech chooses which one he thinks suits him best, and the rest is up to him(or her). the problem is shitty techs think they are good, good techs think they are great, and great techs know they are great, their bosses know they are great, and in most cases are treated like gold(or at least should be). and when they aren't, too many of them end up leaving the trade because they assume it will be the same no matter where they go. sometimes grass is greaner on the other side, sometimes it isn't, but it is always still just grass. it is what you make of it. i just try to make sure all the tools are there for everyone to prosper as long as they are willing. but alas, some days it still is not good enough. maybe nothing ever will be? maybe alberta needs to slow the f**k down for reality to set in(which just might happen).

haha, no i mean oasis. that is just what we say, call oasis, check oasis, same thing. and as far as hotline goes, if you can't run the vehicle in oasis, how the hell can you call hotline. my situation is frustrating, even though i am the "shop foreman", i am still expected to produce hours. it has taken some time, and trial and error to come up with what we both(the dealer and myself) feel is a fair pay structure and time split, but i honestly don't get to spend as much quality time with my guys(and gal) as i would like. anyway, to kind of get back on topic, and stay off topic at the same time, wtf is with young people today. that is what makes me shake my head. i am not old(29)but it is pretty unbelievable how much things have changed in the last 10-12 years since i got into this god awful trade. if i acted back then anything close to the way some of my guys act now, i would have been out on my ass. when i wanted a raise, i had to earn it, not expect it because joe tech down the street makes $2/hour more than me. i didn't have to listen to the guys in the shop complain because a senior guy was making more money than fresh out of school j-man. it took me years to finally get a pay structure set up here that rewards hard work and effort, not just showing up at 8 every morning. but what really makes me shake my head about that is, nobody takes advantage of it but me. the incentives are there, and almost everyone in my shop can attain them, but instead of actually working towards them, they complain. i am not making enough money, I WANT A RAISE OR I AM GOING TO QUIT, BLAH BLAH. rant over

nice post jim. i think we kind of think alike. i am glad that when i went through my apprenticeship years, i had a couple of hard ass, hard working, really smart techs to guide me. i also had a couple of slack ass hacks, and few in between as well. no one ever held my hand, or spoon fed me, but the quality help was there whenever i needed it, and i believe i am a better tech because of it. now, as i am the shop foreman, i have tried to give my young apprenti the same "tools" that i was given. one difference between them and me, NONE OF THEM WANT TO LEARN SHIT! they expect to be spoon fed, and are too lazy to try to figure things out for themselves. i have 2 apprentices here that don't even know how to call oasis even though i have shown them countless times(or that is their excuss anyway). now, don't get me wrong, i will be the first guy to jump in if someone needs a hand, but i have some rules. 1-have you read the wsm, called oasis etc 2-are you prepared to do the job(tools out, books out, etc) 3-have you at least attempted to do it yourself(within your capable limits) if you answered no to any of the above, don't come and see me until you can say yes i have. and so it is, i look like the asshole, the shop nazzi when i am anything but. i as well like to keep up to date. i am a member of at least 6 technical based forums, i read the tsb's and ssm's as they are released, i frequent inford, i go to the pro tech meetings, etc, etc. and i thrive because of it. the three catagories you mentioned, i have one of each here. one guy that potentially could be great, but he is lazy. one that will probably be a pretty good tech but never a cut above. and one that should consider a career change. but, as jim and most of the other guys know, attracting quality young people into the trade is tough. i'm not sure why, but kids are completely misguided in school these days. i did a career fair last year, and kids are still being told that skilled tradesmen are only making $35-50000/year with the exception of welding and plumbing. maybe if the truth was out there, and a few more shop owners would get with the times, we might not be in such bad shape.

i heard the same thing. i believe the hurricane(boss) was supposed to be or maybe is still a pushrod engine. and why would it be a step back? chevy and dodge(although not as much) have both proven that pushrod engines can still be reliable, make gobs of power, meet emissions, and get descent fuel mileage. and look at all the valvetrain troubles we have with the v8ohc's. maybe a step back is a step in the right direction.

why don't you just chain the frame back to the hoist? other than that, sorry i have no suggestions except booze to ease the pain.

dy 1073(i think) sensor, and a wpt 830 pigtail will fix it right up. every second superduty on the road up here comes in with c1174/c1236.