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/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gifAll Hail Keith, Leader of the Underground Resistance /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

We are very high in Diesel repairs too. Luckily it's the only area we have in the red right now, and as such, we're not too worried because if only Diesels are high, they leave you alone. There is a message about that on FMC dealer in the warranty bulletins. I also heard from a PSMAC rep that they are planning to re-evaluate the bell curve next year so that truck shops aren't grouped with low volume truck dealers when comparing Diesel repair costs. That should help all of us out hopefully.

Quote: If it's idiot proof, than I'm one hell of an idiot. Ughhhh, thats not what I wanted to hear. You're definitely no idiot Bruce. I guess looks are deceiving, so don't be too hard on yourself. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif I guess that we really shouldn't be surprised if making these work ends up being huge pain in the ass. After all, it's from the same company that brought us that wonderful WDS. Remember doing a 10% reghost on those every couple weeks? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banghead.gif Now I think I'll backup my hard drive before I even start this ordeal just incase I need to revert to what I know works. It should be a real joy making it work with my internet security program too now that I think about it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crybaby2.gif

It showed up today /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rockon.gif and was waiting on my front step. It's a nice little package which comes with the wireless card, software cd, new clear plastic vcm cover, and instructions. It looks pretty idiot proof too. I can't wait to bring my vcm home tomorrow and get this thing working. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif Well I rented the first episode by looking up prior posts. Now I'm all up to speed. It was like a Shakespeare tragedy. Poor guy /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotz.gif

Well Geez. Here I am typing away, and Bruce beats me to it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/boxing.gif

I recall the drainback valve in the rear oil cooler header tends to fall out on that year, and drains the hp reservoir -since the early ones didn't have a standpipe in it. If you remove the oil filter, it will fall out with the filter. If you're able to collect the 2 washers and the spring, it can be reused by staking it back into place. Otherwise, the oil cooler header needs to be replaced. Ford updated it by installing a snap ring to retain the valve assembly. Otherwise check for a badly worn low pressure oil pump. They don't usually look bad, but if checked with a feeler gauge sometimes you'll find it. There may also be a check valve in the hp pump itslef, or the front cover depending on the year, so that's something to keep in mind too. Check tsb 96-11-13 for more on that. I tried reading it but found it very confusing. Another thought...If the low pressure pump is coming apart, there may be pieces of it sticking the IPR open too.

I didn't see the first episode, but I'll gladly check out the sequel /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/popcorn.gif

Ha, wow I guess not. That label maker must have been designed by a 6.0 engineer /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/drinkingdude.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/icon_crazy.gif

Did it work???, Thats Genius if it does /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

And if you're cheap like me, you can sometimes rig one of those brake caliper tools to use as a pulling fixture. Remove the rockers and both injector hold down bolts. Place some crumpled paper in the bottom of the cup to prevent shavings from entering the cylinder. tap the hole with the normal Rotunda tap and guide. Then, if there is no room for the slide hammer SOMETIMES you can place a brake caliper tool across the rocker pedistals and thread a bolt through it with a nut and some thrust washers. then hold the bolt and turn the nut to extract the cup. Much the same way a harmonic damper puller works. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif It may not work in an Econoline because of space, and on right bank F-series you may need to remove the evap housing. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rockon.gif

See that part in there where Hotline KNOWS there's a good chance the pump is damaged when a short occours. Yet the TSB wants us to just replace the wiring first and reassemble the vehicle...That is because a pump costs more than 8 hours of our time, thus ford is more than willing to take that chance. I'm not so sure that I'm willing to take that chance though. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif

probably about 6 hrs total. I did this in 04 so its hard to remember. I estimate that I spent 1.5 hours going through evtm's and figuring out that (it seems)all 7.3 DIT's have their 42 pin connector injector control circuits in the same pin location regardless of year. The rest of the time Assembling the connector/harness/box assembly. It could be done a faster I think, but I'm pretty anal about soldering my connections and doing a fancy job. I over built mine, If I had to do it over again I would have used a smaller gauge wire so it isn't so bulky, and made the harness a little longer so I could reach it into the truck thereby allowing me to drive the vehicle with it hooked up should the need ever arise. I haven't found any sources for a new 42 pin connector, so you'll have to raid a junk yard to get one. The rest of the materials are available at Radio Shak.

Quote: My concern is some techs have found the HPFP is damaged and the vehicle is a no start or fails soon after the wire repair. I just hate doing things twice when an "over repair" would be the better choice. AuthorTopic:6.4l code p0003 Print Topic CHAD LAWSON Ed Murdock Ford Lavonia, GA (706) 356-1933i have a 08 6.4l with a code p0003 (fuel volume regulator control circuit low) and won't go over 1800rpm. has anybody seen this. October 19, 2007 2:17:05 PM Charles DeGroot Greiner Ford Lincoln Mercury Casper, WY (307) 266-1680Short to groud under fuel pump cover?? October 19, 2007 2:58:43 PM ROBERT GAULT Crossroads Ford, Inc. Cary, NC (919) 467-1881Charles is correct. We had one. October 19, 2007 3:17:11 PM jasen paulsen Red Johnson Ford Inc Hammon, OK (580) 473-2241we had one too, do it with the cab on, not that bad October 19, 2007 6:14:39 PM Marc Vukicevich Holman Ford-Mount Laurel Mount Laurel, NJ (856) 866-0111Be sure to also replace the High Pressure Pump as hotline said shorted wire will damage the pump. We had 2 last week with same concern. Much easier with cab off. Not too bad. October 19, 2007 8:44:14 PM Charles DeGroot Greiner Ford Lincoln Mercury Casper, WY (307) 266-1680Both we had had to be cab off the turbo inlet pipe fasteners really suck the big one assuming you can actually get them loose without stripping or breaking them . Not to mention the aftershock of exhaust leaks because it's virtually impossible to follow the WSM procedure to torque the up piped EDOC and brackets in any kind of sequence with the cab on. October 20, 2007 10:22:58 AM ROBERT GAULT Crossroads Ford, Inc. Cary, NC (919) 467-1881All those fasteners and gaskets are a one time use. They all have to be replaced whenever the exhaust is removed from the back of the engine. October 22, 2007 8:15:10 AM TOM ROHR Hill Ford Lincoln Mercury, Inc Portage, WI (608) 742-7141Pull the cab and put HP pump cover gasket and the HP pump assembly . Otherwise like me youwill end up doing it twice . October 22, 2007 9:52:28 AM FRANK BARKER Dale Jarrett Ford Indian Trail, NC (704) 283-8521yEP cHARLES HAS GOT THAT ONE,i'VE HAD SEVERAL October 26, 2007 8:24:44 AM

I don't know how I ever got by without one. If you have about grand, you can buy this one: http://www.intermotive.net/Brochures/IPA.pdf OR... If you'd rather spend about $50 and have some time on your hands you can build your own like this. Go to Radio Shak and get yourself a project box, 8x 110v toggle switches, a spool of wire, gromet, and a label maker. You will also need to procure one of the 42 pin connectors found on many ford vehicles (mine came from an old Taurus engine harness). Wire the connectors so that all of the pins are just a pass through, except the 8 injector control circuits which you run through the swith box. I checked several E and F series evtm's for several model years, and all had the same injector pin locations - so I'm pretty sure this will work on any 7.3 DIT, but you should do your own research to be sure. Install, label, and wire the switches respectively. Then to use it, just connect this device in series with the engine harness and make sure all switches are closed. Start the engine, and switch off cylinders one at a time to isolate weak injectors (often this is the only way to diagnose a cold miss). If it's not obvious which one it is, monitor the mfdes pid (mass fuel desired) and write down what it reads for each cylinder. add the readings and divide by 8 to get an average. Compare each individual reading to the average and you should see pretty clearly which injector(s) are at fault. NEVER SHUT OFF MORE THAN 1 OR 2 INJECTORS AT A TIME AS THIS IS VERY HARD ON THE IDM AND MAY CAUSE IT TO FAIL. Once you have narrowed it to your specific cylinder(s), you are 3/4 of the way through the SSCC process!!!

Actually, Rotunda just called me back and said they're available now /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif and let me order one with my credit card. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rockon.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

Hmmm, I'll have to have a chat with the boss and check in to that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/poke.gif

I just called and they told me they can only place a back order if it's being billed to the dealership p&a code. Since I own my own ids and will be paying with plastic, they just took my contact info and SAY that they will give me a call when some are available. Why do I feel like I'm being swept under the rug? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banghead.gif

Are your injectors new or Reman? I've been burned by a reman injector before. If you have one of the 7.3 injector bench testers that Ford sent to us a couple years ago, you can vacuum test the injectors to check for internal plunger leakage - which will cause oil consumption because it will be injected in to the cylinder and be burned as fuel. There is a video clip on the tech time plus archives that explains how it works (I think a web course too). I'd start there before doing exploratory surgery on the engine.

It's their loss Larry, You deserve an employer that appreciates you. Best of luck, and I'm sure you'll excell at your new job!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

Bay 1: Just finished an 06 F350 Head gasket job, and now an 04 showed up puking coolant out of the degas bottle...Nice, I already have all the needed tools out. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rockon.gif Bay 2: I had a 05 F250 with a REALLY intemitant no start, but not having any codes, and not being able to get it to happen I slapped it with a big ol NPF and shipped it. Told cust it might be from thier aftermarket remote start-and that they should unplug it and drive it for a while to see if the problem happens again /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hammer2.gif