blksmkr Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 just a little repair question before i go ape *hit on the tech,. will any of you or have any of you cut a fan shroud in half to do any repair on a 6.0? i was pullin a trailer and blew my turbo and coolers all at the same time.stranded 300 miles away had to take it in to a unknown tech for repair.tech told me that this is normal. i have had this truck apart many times and not one time did they cut to access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregKneupper Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I have never cut one in half to remove it and it is not necessary to do so. But I have seen it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Wow... this is a loaded question... There are "cut lines" near the top of the shroud as well as precast holes for screws. Having said that, I have only ever cut one... the first one I did back in ought3. T'was then I discovered that the shroud would come out in it's entirety easier than cutting. So... did the tech cut it neatly and leave the job looking neat? Or did he hack it like a drunken butcher? If the guy was unfamiliar with the SuperDuty and the PSD, perhaps a tow truck might have been the better option? At any rate, coming uncunted on somebody isn't usually a viable tactic and usually gets counterproductive results..... Being tactful might get you a new shroud or at least future considerations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 back in the day(2003) you where instructed to cut the shroud. It was in the WSM as such. I did one accordingly and after I was dont I felt bad cause it looked like shit(I made it neat) but still. I would be pissed if a tech did that to my truck. shortly after I figured out how to get the shroud out without cutting. very easy and the standard practice we all use now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksmkr Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 looks like crap. hammer and chisel. just checking to see if its standard practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoWilimek Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Must be an indy shop. Only one was ever cut at our shop-the very first one. As others have posted, it used to be in the manual, and was mentioned in the 6.0 Fordstar(satellite)course broadcast to Ford techs when the 6.0 was introduced. After cutting that one, the tech noticed it really wasn't required and the techs here have never cut another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 You can add me to list of techs who have only ever cut ONE, and that would be the first one for me. I think by now, it should be very clear cut and dry what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I see you're from Michigan, you didn't perhaps have this repaired at Auto-Trend or Stellar Enterprises, LLC, did you? Was the "tech's" name Rex Umney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Was the "tech's" name Rex Umney? Keith PLEASE invite him!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksmkr Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 I see you're from Michigan, you didn't perhaps have this repaired at Auto-Trend or Stellar Enterprises, LLC, did you? Was the "tech's" name Rex Umney? no.at this point im holding back on location as im waiting on a answer. thanks, so much for all your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamageINC Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Haha yeah this is a funny one. Techically, cutting it was the correct thing to do. We've just all figured out there's a better way to do it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Actually, Dave, (hey, did anyone here see "2001 A Space Odyssey"? When HAL9000 said "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that".) the online WSMs have all been amended to remove the "cutting of the shroud" ceremony. However, 2004 is still old enough that someone might have a print manual with it's "too bad so sad" edict. Sidebar... anyone check out i-ATN and it's constant barrage of "I'm too cheap to buy manuals" help requests? Having said all that, it is beginning to look like people should be friggin' happy to get their cars back running the way some people relate their repair experience.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You can add me to the list of people who cut the first one they ever removed. Afterwards, I realized that it is just as easy (if not easier) to remove it in one piece... So I have never cut one since... But have seen several come through my bay that have been cut prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I have never cut a single shroud. This is surely because I didn't actually read the service manual... to remove a fucking shroud? There! I said it. I can hear it now... Jim cracking his knuckles as he leans over his keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Never bothered to cut one, just looked like if I finagled it enough it would come out, and sure enough, it did. I like taking ones out that have been cut, and nobody bothered to screw them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlep Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I too have never cut one, and like Keith, due to the main fact is I didn't read the WSM. Seen plenty that were cut, some nicely and others........ well lets just leave it at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Watched a cutty/whizzy wheel get away from a guy and cost him a rad, once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Don't remember what a rad costs, but on the class 8 side a 200-300 dollar shroud usually will cost the owner 2000-3000 for a new rad and possibly a CAC, not to mention a new fan blade and belt/s. I see this everyday with fan blades. Even on the F-series trucks. My fan blades sales have went thru the roof lately...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksmkr Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 no matter now, towed a trailer today and turbo started squeeling again. so i unhooked trailer went and got a gauge and my oil temp was 40 degrees higher than ect.he said he could not get the soot out of the degas bottle but the oil cooler didnt seem to have any trouble.new dealer new tech, monday.thanks again for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Got a gauge? Please clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I have never cut a single shroud. This is surely because I didn't actually read the service manual... to remove a fucking shroud? There! I said it. I can hear it now... Jim cracking his knuckles as he leans over his keyboard. I'll be one of the first to admit to avoid reading the WSM at times... And one basic truth in life is that there's a chance you should have read it when you didn't and you shouldn't have read it when you did. The WSM is chock full of very good info... not to mention the warnings and caveates in each section (the stuff in bold print that keeps us from having one of those "oh my fuuuuuuuck" moments. At the same time, we can get into the WSM and the blinders go on... we are going to follow that manual no matter what our senses are telling us (no matter how hard your "spidey sense is tingling"). The solution? Even for things you do EVERY DAY, it doesn't hurt to refer to the manual before you begin... Trick question - what is the factory approved method for installing the wheels on a Super Duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbriggs Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It was probably the rad cap squealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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