the_twig_187 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I have a HPO leak from the "old" dummy plug on the right side oil rail. parts gave me a kit that contains 2 stand pipes, 2 dummy plugs, the green PCV o-ring and 6mm Allen plug (not sure what its for). I searched oasis for a tsb and didn't find anything was this an old TSB? just wondering why they are all sold as a kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmantech Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Just the dummy plug is W302908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I believe this is a recall or TSB for an LCF 4.5L hence the 6E7Z prefix (E7 = LCF). It just happens to work on a 6.0L because the engines share a lot of similar components. You can get an individual dummy plug or standpipe but if you need all 4 it's cheaper to get the kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Aside from that, most if not all engines that have a failed D-ring should have all of the o-rings serviced. Frequently more than one degrades so it makes sense to replace all of them. The shiny plug goes in the ICP sensor hole on the left oil rail which on the 4.5L in LCFs seem to commonly blow out but rarely on 6.0L engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 This kit started with the LCF way back when but finally got cross referenced for the 6.0 I remember a TSB or SSM but dont recall the number. We always used the LCF kit as it had the teflon addtion to the o-ring as the 6.0 numbered parts did not Whenever I have a o-ring failure of one of the standtubes or dummy plugs its gets all of them replaced. I learned this early on after chasing the leaks from valve cover to valve cover if only changing the failed plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 yah that's what I figured, ill just do all 4 now and keep a happy customer. I didn't know what to charge so I looked up in the Mitchel book and I booked the same time as if I were to replace one injector on each bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 And this is why we always recommend both sides... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Absolutely Mr Twig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Can't count how many times we get one in that has had only one side replaced by another shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I couldn't even hear the air leak on the left head because the air was rushing out so loud on the right. I cant count how many times I have seen dummy plugs replaced but the stand pipes are still the 10mm allen heads. now I have never seen a standpipe o-ring fail but I mean "come on" your right there man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The stand pipe seals do fail but it is rare. I think I have seen only two instances myself. Plenty of block off tubes and quite a few ICP hole block off plugs - almost all on LCF's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 We actually had one where the stand pipe split where the middle seal is. Maybe 2 standpipes with failed orings at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Never seen a standpipe o-ring fail. Found some that were close but not enough to cause a concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I have a HPO leak from the "old" dummy plug on the right side oil rail. parts gave me a kit that contains 2 stand pipes, 2 dummy plugs, the green PCV o-ring and 6mm Allen plug (not sure what its for). I searched oasis for a tsb and didn't find anything was this an old TSB? just wondering why they are all sold as a kit? Whats the entire PN for the kit? Never mind Found it..... Edited April 13, 2015 by Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 the kit is 6E7Z-9A332-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I have seen a couple but you are right - For some reason seal failures are predominantly occurring on the dummy plugs. I still would not recommend not replacing ALL of them as supplied by the kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 currently in my bay is a 2008 e-450 with hot no start. air tested and heard a loud rush of air coming from the left valve cover. recommended doing both sides to ensure that the updated stand pipes and dummy plugs wouldn't be a failure at a future date. they approved the repair estimate and when I removed the left side standpipe I inspected it and didn't find any nicks or cuts in the O-rings. However, when I removed the dummy plug I found the lower seal completely cut in half and causing the pressure loss and the hot no start. I have also never actually seen a standpipe o-ring fail but I mean come on now, its 12hrs work on an "E" series. lets update both pieces and insure that the customer is not stranded in a hot no start in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I've only ever seen standpipe seals leak on LCFs. I've yet to see it on a 6.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Oh jeeze! I have seen this on countless 6.0L engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Nope. Not this guy. I've seen a few thousand port plug leaks, but I still have yet to see a failed seal on a stand pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Woops! Flat rate reading. Just read "stand pipe." I HAVE seen one or two though... not countless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Uh, I just chalked it up to that little black rain cloud that hangs out over New Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Noooo. THAT black cloud stays directly over my dealership where it can acutely dump on me continuously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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