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If you have access to a borescope, I would see if you could get a good look at cylinder #8 piston with the glow plug and/or injector removed. If there's any visible piston damage, well you know you're going deeper. I had one truck a few years back with cylinder #8 piston damaged, and put a nice gouge on the cylinder wall. The connecting rod was 'S' shaped. Amazingly enough, this engine ran relatively well all things considered. I believe it was Keith who mentioned awhile back how amazing it is, the PCM is capable of masking serious internal issues with these engines. I just did an oil change on one a couple weeks back with a couple of needle bearings stuck to the drain plug magnet.

You mean like this? I've tried it on my own truck just for S's and G's while switching out my summer wheels and tires (20's) to my winters (18's on steel rims) and programming in the appropriate tire size under the Programmable Parameters menu. It seems to go successfully, and then lead me to going around in circles, if you know what I mean. So it never goes through. It's not that I feel any need to go faster than 95 mph in my 4+ ton truck (I can hardly go faster than 20 mph when I'm stuck in traffic on my way to and from, let alone highway speeds). But I was just curious, since that option is available on these particular trucks. On other vehicles, that option doesn't even exist altogether.

Just curious. Has anyone ever successfully programmed that parameter on these trucks?

I ran into this exact same problem about two weeks ago. I did everything you did, including uninstalling IDS. When I received the pop-up prompt for version 107.06 update, it installed successfully and apparently repaired the issue.

What have you guys been using for engine oil, when doing oil changes on these Transits with the 3.2L Diesel? The oil cap spec calls for 5W30/5W40. I don't know of any such engine oil weight 5W30 that exists for diesel engines, let alone any from the Motorcraft line of lubricants. Up until discontinuation, I've been using the Mobil Delvac 5W40 synthetic oil. If you click on the mileage icon in the MPS menu, it lists all the appropriate part numbers along with the labour times allotted. The part number for the engine oil is listed as DEL-5W40-4LSD for 11.4. However, that oil no longer exists, and has now been changed up to DEL-0W40-4LAS. So, I've been using this oil on all Transits coming in for oil changes since then. Our warranty clerk has been giving me grief, telling me Ford won't pay for synthetic oil on vehicles with FMPP. On just one Transit that came in yesterday, I see the previous maintenances with CXO-5W30-LSP12 (gas engine oil) on the parts list of the previous maintenances on OASIS. When I asked my warranty clerk about this, I was told to use the synthetic oil, but Ford will only pay for the regular oil, while our parts department takes the hit in the difference in cost!!! What gives? Anybody else heard of this? On another note, this particular service was also due for a fuel filter change. In MPS, it lists FG-1162 as the part number for the fuel filter. For those of you not in the know, FG-1162 is the whole fuel filter and water separator housing assembly!!! WTF??? The correct number for the filter only, I found out is FD-4621.

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 2.7L/3.0L - Oil Consumption With DTC P0524 And/Or P06DD, Rough Idle, Misfire And/Or White Or Blue Exhaust Smoke - Built On 1-Apr-2016 And Through 1-Jan-2017 17-2235 17 November 2017 Model: Ford 2016-2017 Edge Lincoln 2016-2017 MKX 2017 Continental 2017 Fusion 2017 MKZ Issue: Some 2016-2017 Edge/MKX, 2017 Continental, and 2017 Fusion/MKZ vehicles equipped with a 2.7L or 3.0L gasoline turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) engine and built on 1-Apr-2016 and through 1-Jan-2017 may exhibit white or blue smoke from the exhaust, rough idle in neutral or park at normal operating temperature or after a hot restart. The vehicle may also exhibit an illuminated malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0305, P0306 and/or P0316, P0524 and/or P06DD with excessive oil consumption. Oil consumption may be 1 Liter (1 quart) in less than 4,800 km (3,000 miles). Action: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition. Parts Part Number Description Quantity FT4Z-6006-B FT4Z-6006-B 2.7L Engine Assembly 1 GB8Z-6006-A GB8Z-6006-A 3.0L Engine Assembly 1 FT4Z-6049-E FT4Z-6049-E 2.7L Cylinder Head Assembly 1 FT4Z-6049-F FT4Z-6049-F 2.7L Cylinder Head Assembly 1 FL3Z-6079-D FL3Z-6079-D 2.7L Cylinder Head Gasket Kit 1 GB8Z-6079-A GB8Z-6079-A 3.0L Cylinder Head Gasket Kit 1 FT4Z-6675-C FT4Z-6675-C Engine Oil Pan Assembly, 2.7L and 3.0L 1 FT4Z-6731-A FT4Z-6731-A Filter Engine Oil Assembly 1 W712961-S442 W712961-S442 Steering Shaft Bolt 1 W712503-S440 W712503-S440 Sway Bar Mount Nut 2 W714265-S442 W714265-S442 Catalytic Converter Nut 1 BL3Z-9450-A BL3Z-9450-A Catalytic Converter Gasket 2 F2GZ-4682-A F2GZ-4682-A Driveshaft to PTU Bolt and Washer Assembly 3 W790063-S900 W790063-S900 Driveshaft to RDU Bolt and Washer Assembly 1 W712154-S439 W712154-S439 Center Bearing Bolts 1 W715295-S439 W715295-S439 Strut to Knuckle Bolt (package of 4) 1 W520216-S440 W520216-S440 Strut to Knuckle Nut (package of 4) 1 W717674-S439 W717674-S439 Engine Mount And Bracket Bolt (package of 2) 1 W712334-S442 W712334-S442 Engine Mount And Bracket Nut (package of 4) 1 W710807-S442 W710807-S442 Engine Mount and Bracket Nut 1 W716779-S439 W716779-S439 Transmission Mount Bolt (package of 4) 1 FT4Z-6A340-A FT4Z-6A340-A Crank Pulley Bolt 1 FT4Z-9J323-A FT4Z-9J323-A High Pressure Fuel Rail 1 CP9Z-6279-C CP9Z-6279-C Variable Camshaft Timing Bolt 1 W716383-S437 W716383-S437 Turbo Mounting Stud 1 FT4Z-9J323-B FT4Z-9J323-B High Pressure Fuel Rail 1 W520215-S440 W520215-S440 Outer Tie Rod End Nut 1 CCPZ-3B477-B CCPZ-3B477-B Wheel Hub Nut 1 W500545-S439 W500545-S439 Ball Joint Pinch Bolt 1 W520214-S440 W520214-S440 Ball Joint Pinch Bolt Nut 1 4S4Z-3N324-AA 4S4Z-3N324-AA Halfshaft Retaining Strap 1 W520102-S442 W520102-S442 Halfshaft Retaining Strap Nut (package of 2) 1 W715618-S437 W715618-S437 Torque Converter Nut 2 9L8Z-6G004-F 9L8Z-6G004-F Cylinder Head Temp Sensor Assembly 1 CYFS-092-YPT CYFS-092-YPT Spark Plug SP542 6 CU7Z-19B508-A CU7Z-19B508-A Flange Sealant 1 VC-3-B VC-3-B Motorcraft® Orange Concentrated Antifreeze/Coolant 1 XO-5W30-QSP XO-5W30-QSP Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor 1 ZC-30-A ZC-30-A Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover 1 PM-4-A PM-4-A Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner 1 ZC-31-B ZC-31-B Motorcraft® Metal Surface Prep Wipes 1 TA-357 TA-357 Motorcraft® High Performance Engine RTV Silicone 1 TA-24-B TA-24-B Motorcraft® Thread Sealant With PTFE 1 ZC-37-A ZC-37-A Motorcraft® Wheel And Tire Cleaner 1 XL-2 XL-2 Motorcraft® High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant 1 W716457-S439 W716457-S439 Subframe Bolt (package of 4) 1 7T4Z-1177-C 7T4Z-1177-C Right Side Intermediate Shaft Seal Kit (FWD) 1 F2GZ-7H469-B F2GZ-7H469-B Right Side Intermediate Shaft Seal Kit (AWD) 1 9W7Z-19B596-A 9W7Z-19B596-A A/C O-ring Kit 1 DS7Z-19B596-A DS7Z-19B596-A A/C O-ring Kit 1 BL3Z-9C995-A BL3Z-9C995-A Fuel Injector Clip With O-ring 6 BL3Z-9229-C BL3Z-9229-C Fuel Injector O-ring Kit 2 Warranty Status: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool. Labor Times Description Operation No. Time 2017 MKZ FWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235A 15.1 2017 MKZ AWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235B 15.6 2017 MKZ AWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235C 20.5 2017 MKZ FWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235D 20.3 2016-2017 MKX/Edge AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S And T) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235E 15.7 2016-2017 MKX/Edge AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S And T) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235F 21 2016-2017 MKX/Edge FWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S And T) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235G 15.3 2016-2017 MKX/Edge FWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S And T) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235H 20.9 2017 Fusion AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235J 15.1 2017 Fusion AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235K 20.1 2017 Continental FWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235L 14.3 2017 Continental AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235M 15 2017 Continental AWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235N 19.9 2017 Continental FWD 2.7L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235O 19.6 2017 Continental AWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Long Block Engine Assembly (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235P 15.5 2017 Continental AWD 3.0L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace Both Cylinder Head Assemblies (Can Be Claimed With Operations R Or S) (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 172235Q 20.3 Additional Time To Check And Correct Toe Vehicles Without Lane Departure. 172235R 0.6 Additional Time To Check And Correct Toe Vehicles With Lane Departure. 172235S 0.8 2016-2017 MKX: Additional Time When 360 Degree Camera Alignment Is Necessary. 172235T 0.5 Repair/Claim Coding Causal Part: 6049 Condition Code: 42 Drive Tool 1/4" 6 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 7 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 8 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 10 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 11 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 13 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 15 mm Deep Well Socket 1/4" 5 mm Short Socket 1/4" 10 mm Flex Socket 1/4" 10 mm Mid Length Socket 1/4" 13 mm Mid Length Socket 1/4" 15 mm Mid Length Socket 1/4" 1.5" Extension 1/4" 2" Extension 1/4" 4" Extension 1/4" 6" Extension 1/4" 11" Extension 1/4" 14" Extension 1/4" Long Handle Ratchet 1/4" Air Ratchet 1/4" Torque Wrench 3/8" 8 mm Deep Well Socket 3/8" 10 mm Deep Well Socket 3/8" 11 mm Deep Well Socket 3/8" 13 mm Deep Well Socket 3/8" 15 mm Deep Well Socket 3/8" 2" Extension 3/8" 4" Extension 3/8" 6" Extension 3/8" 11" Extension 3/8" 14" Extension 3/8" Long Handle Ratchet 3/8" 6 mm Allen Socket 3/8" Air Ratchet 3/8" 17 mm Crows Foot 3/8" 15 mm 12-Point Deep Well Socket 3/8" E8 Torx Socket 1/2" 13 mm Deep Well Impact Socket 1/2" 15 mm Deep Well Impact Socket 1/2" 18 mm Deep Well Impact Socket 1/2" 21 mm Deep Well Impact Socket 1/2" 32 mm Deep Well Impact Socket 1/2" 24 mm Short Socket 1/2" Long Handle Ratchet 1/2" Impact Wrench 1/2" Torque Wrench 1/2" Long Breaker Bar 10 mm Combination Wrench 13 mm Combination Wrench 15 mm Combination Wrench 17 mm Combination Wrench 18 mm Combination Wrench 19 mm Combination Wrench 7 mm Ratchet Wrench 8 mm Ratchet Wrench 10 mm Ratchet Wrench 13 mm Ratchet Wrench 15 mm Ratchet Wrench 18 mm Ratchet Wrench Small Trim Tool Large Trim Tool Hose Clamp Pliers Pliers Long Pry Bar 17" Punch 20 Ounce Hammer Steering Wheel Tool Magnet Bungee Cords Seal Pick Marker 2" Roloc Disc 1/2" Drill Plastic Scraper Air Blow Gun Phillips Screwdriver Engine Spreader Bar 303-1246 Lift Eyes 313-1634 Torque Converter Retainer 307-346 Disconnect Tool 307-569 Installer Halfshaft 204-161 Front Wheel Hub Remover 205D070 Service Procedure 1. Check the vehicle build date. Was the vehicle built on 1-Apr-2016 and through 1-Jan-2017? (1). Yes - proceed to Step 2. (2). No - this article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Controls/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual for normal diagnostics. 2. Connect the Ford Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS) or Ford J2534 Diagnostic Software (FJDS) to the data link connector (DLC) and check for DTCs. Are DTCs P0524 and/or P06DD stored in the powertrain control module (PCM) memory? (1). Yes - continue to Step 3. (2). No - replace the cylinder heads. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01. The repair is complete. 3. Check the engine oil level on the engine oil level indicator. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01. Is the oil level within the minimum and maximum marks on the indicator? (1). Yes - proceed to Step 4. (2). No - add engine oil as needed to achieve the correct oil level on the indicator. Proceed to Step 4. 4. Run the engine until it reaches normal operating temperature. Using IDS or FJDS monitor the engine oil pressure. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01. Is the oil pressure within specification? (1). Yes - replace the cylinder heads. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01. (2). No - replace the long block engine assembly. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01. Prior approval and cost cap must be completed as required; however, follow the diagnostics repair procedure in this article to determine correct repair. © 2017 Ford Motor Company All rights reserved. NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supersede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.

Please forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question, but as the thread title states, does anyone know how to attach IDS CFR recordings to a Hotline request contact? This is actually the very first time I've needed to use my CFR. One of our sister dealers' tow truck driver has an '05 6.0 with 300,000 on the ticker complaining of an intermittent stall and/or no-start. After wasting my time with him, looking at some live data unable to see anything out of spec, it was suggested he take the CFR with him to take some recordings of the events, when he can duplicate the concern.

Not just easier for us in the service bays, but more or less keeping the out-of-warranty repair costs reasonable for the consumer. Let's face it, most of these trucks are workhorses for their owners, who for the most part are willing to pay the price of repair to keep them roadworthy for many years. But c'mon, having to pay the outrageous price to replace the exhaust torpedo because the DPF can no longer complete regens to clean it, or as in this thread's topic to complete repair to P207F setting, is a bit much don't you think? Yeah, I agree with it being cost effective to the manufacturer, but at the expense of being cost prohibitive to the end consumer when out-of-warranty replacement is required. No wonder there are so many guys out there doing deletes.

Threads like this make me wonder why Ford can't make the DOC, SCR and DPF as separately serviceable components like they are on the 2016 and up F-650/F-750 models.

Just curious as to how many of you have had trucks coming in where someone has evidently replaced the passenger mirror with one intended for '08 to '10 model year Super Duties? I've had three in this last month alone. The last two, I managed to sell new mirrors for believe it or not. And yeah it's pretty damn pricey for non-heated, non-power mirrors. You'd whomever replaced these mirrors would have clued in to the wire attached.

I've had one such truck with an engine hour count, equivalent to double the actual driven mileage needing two DPF/SCRs to repair P207F if that helps much. The first go around under warranty, and the second one was good willed because his FMPP is still a long way from expiring. Not that it helps much, but I really don't understand why the exhaust after treatment system doesn't have the same coverage as the diesel engine system components. Oh, and on that particular truck my manager actually asked me if there was way to delete that system. You can imagine how that conversation went.

Service it with the outfit that did the original 4x4 conversion???

I once had a truck with a right side headlight not working. Turned out the installer of the plow lights shorted out the right side low beam circuit, which fried the BCM (so the repair ended up being customer pay). Install and program the new BCM to restore function to the right side low beam circuit, and now the power windows don't work. Pull my hair out trying to figure out what I could have possibly done wrong during the BCM install. Submit a Hotline request, only to receive a very prompt response instructing me to uninstall the current version of IDS, and reinstall another version, four versions earlier. Did as instructed, and redid the PMI on the new BCM, and what do you know? The power windows work again.

I had this exact same concern on 2012 6.7L truck awhile back back as well. Like yours, replacing both batteries repaired mine. On mine, the passenger side battery failed a load by a mile but the driver side battery just barely passed if I recall correctly.

http://jalopnik.com/why-2-000-chicago-mechanics-are-at-war-with-car-dealers-1797980272

So much for freedom of speech..... I wasn't even aware of that video until someone mentioned it in this thread. I watched it. My opinion on it? Well, what is the point to expressing it? If I post on our message board, one or two things will happen. Either it will be deleted, and/or our DSM will be calling me into the SM's office for a closed door "strong arming" conversation about terminating my employment and possibly banning me from ever setting foot into another dealer. I see a mass Exodus coming....

I've done quite a few Police Explorer 3.7L water pumps now. Yes, a little slack is normal. As long it's not excessive. The biggest issue, is ensuring proper crank pulley bolt torque when completing the repair, so as not to cause damage to the woodruff key. I believe there's an SSM about it.

Assuming all F-550 trucks are equipped with that big huge open diff (no locker) is there any slight chance of the diff side gears binding up?

Where it's Retail, that's how I quote them. Even if there is a repeat of this issue in another 140K miles, how long will it take to get there?

A quick Google Search reveals this: http://dqcode.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-98.html :haha2: :haha2: :haha2:

....and put the empty bottle in trash can beside your favorite co-worker's toolbox.

I've seen that same inertia switch tripped on 6.4L trucks that will leave every DTC flagged, along with a no-crank/no-start symptom.

Pinpoint test step ME4 resistance check between at external connector.

http://www.studylifestyle.com/2017/FIXD/13/?cid=14&utm_term=msn-can&sxid=7tevcd8gyj8x .....goes along very well with "Well my mechanic says...." .....or "but I read on the internet that...."