DwayneGorniak

Yuck. Thanks for the tip. Easy enough diag though I guess.

Just out of curiousity Jeff, did you check for DTC's before you disconnected the EDGE chip? This is something I have learned to do years ago. However, there are certain chips like the DIABLO Predators that won't allow the IDS to even communicate with the PCM unless they are returned to stock. I have seen superduties recognized as Ford Fairlanes with these freakin Diablo's.

Way cool. Hang in there. Hopefully you will get a call soon.

Definately congratulations! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Never Ever pass up an opportunity of a lifetime like this. All the luck in the world in to ya. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

Jim, when I type a long winded post. I right click and highlight the whole post, then "COPY" it before I post it. That way, if it gets lost in a black hole, I can restart a reply or post and just click "PASTE". I have had to use it a few times. works great.

Yeah, especially when you forget to pull your roadside hotel behind you and you blow an stc fitting 400 miles away from civilization. Back to the topic, sort of: It is also fun sometimes to screw with customers. This past winter, when we had our cold snap of Minus 35 Celcius (Minus 31 Farenheight) weather I was wearing My Fox hat (as my son calls it) to work. I was diagnosing a no start Sick-O outside. I came walking back into the shop wearing my stylish hat and happened to pass a customer standing at the back shop bay door who was looking out the bay door windows. I went to my toolbox and grabbed a big hammer and called the apprentice to come outside with me. As I walked by the customer, he stopped me and asked me if I had found anything wrong with the truck yet. Now knowing this is the customer who's truck I am working on, I said not yet yet but if you give me a minute , I'm gonna go out and beat on it and see if I can find anything wrong with it. I turned around, walked out the door and did not give him a chance to reply. The apprentice gets in the truck and holds the key in the start position and I climb underneath in the snow and beat the bejesus out of the starter and what do you know? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hammer2.gif the truck starts. I come back into the shop holding up my hammer and say to the customer, You need a starter. He has this disgusted look on his face and goes to the Assistant Service Manager and asks her if he can take the Hill billy wearin the stylish hat workin on his truck serious. Meanwhile, I'm laughin me ars off in the shop and She procedes to tell him, that he has the best tech in the shop workin on his truck. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif Man, it was awsome. Everyone in the shop was laughing. This is why my son calls it a Fox Hat:

Does this photo make me country enough Larry or a little more Hill Billyish? http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=458&nocache=1

Well, I would have to say CUMMINS all the way for the F-650/750. Too bad CAT is droppin out of the race though. That meens less competition.

Well.....country boy with a neck that just may be slightly red.

I just had two like that in the last two days and they were the oil rail plugs with blown out D-rings. The longer they sit shut off, the more oil they drain out of the high pressure rails while the reservoir for the pump stays full. The high pressure pump has the oil still in the reservoir and after you start it, the low pressure pump takes a little while to refill the reservoir because the high pressure pump just sucked it all up to pressure up the rails which also shows low oil pressure on the low side untill the low pressure pump catches up. Keep on the TSB diag.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif That's just damn funny. Man those things will light ya up. Used to use them on the farm. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif

I used to work with a tech who always had plumbers ass showin off. He was always pullin pranks on us. So Most of us in the shop would drop pennies down his ass cheeks when he was bent over and laugh like a MOFO. It was all in good fun though. THis same tech came in to work one monday mornin all hung over and when he opened his bottom drawer on his tool box, he almost had a heart attack when a pigeon flew out and hit him square in the chest. A couple of guys had cought the pigeon late on Friday and had put it in the drawer. A whole weekend of pigeon shit to clean out. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif It was priceless. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

I think we,re doin it all wrong. If we use this: http://www.barsproducts.com/1111.htm /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/icon_crazy.gif, I don't think we should have to phone in for prior approval at all. I'm surprised Ford hasn't revised the TSB with this as the fix. Man, this could be a big money maker. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif After all, it can't be any worse than putting rubber head bolts back in, can it? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif

What the hell is RTDA? You guys got some funky crap goin on down there.

A sad state indeed. But it is also a sad state of affairs that our whole trade has absolutely no process in place to track quality repairs and there is no recognition for it other than the fact that at the end of the month, they see the dollars you have produced and ask you if you can do it again. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/fouet3.gif And you can be doing a better job than the hack next to you, but if that hack makes the shop twenty or fourty percent more a month than you can by doing a quality repair, Management usually says something like: Yeah but the combacks don't cost near as much as what that hack makes. That truly is a sad state of affairs. Because bad news travels fast which affects the dealerships reputaion and good news rarely gets around. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif Customers don't see that John Doe (the hack) screwed the vehicle up, they see the dealership that screwed their car up.

I have gone to a couple myself. Down there, you guys have the Blue angels and up here we have the snowbirds. Whenever we have the shows up here, there are usually alot of teams and pilots from the U.S. that come here to fly and show their stuff. There's some pretty impressive stuff and flying at these shows. Your shows are probably alot bigger than ours though.

Maybe it's where you hold up your middle finger and say YOU'RE NUMBER ONE! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif Just Kiddin, but it would be nice to know. And I sure don't want to jinx ourselves either.

Maybe Jim or Alex may know, but has anyone heard if this going to happen up here? I heard the message while I was on ignore with Hotline this morning. I asked my service manager if he had heard anything about it and he didn't even know what a level one dealer was. I assssuuume this may be U.S. only. No? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif

Trust me keith, Jim knows all about the Censorbot. He is an old foe and definately a pro at pickin on the ole censorbot. I'm just a rookey in training trying to learn from the ole great one. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif Hail Massa Jim, Oh great one. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Yeah, your right Keith. And maybe he is a foreman or a Service Manager or somethin like that. But, Like I said. Not everyone is in a place where they can read all the time.

Here is what I would say to Chris: Not every dealership in this world has technicician's that have all the time in the world to read up on this crap. It is managements responsibility to make sure all procedures are followed up on, and that all update comunications are comunicated to technicians. One of the other dealerships I worked at mad a great use of coffee breaks. The Service Manager sat down with us for every morning coffee break and read off all the broadcast messages and update TSB's for the day which kept us all very well educated. The dealership I am at now does not allow us to even have coffee breaks and there is no means of management even trying to keep us up to date. We are expected to be here ten minutes early every morning and be head down and ass up from 8:00am to 5:00pm. And that comes right from the D.P's mouth at every shop meeting. We are not given the time of day to be able to research every possible document Ford ever publishes. So the fact that he has all the time in the world to research every Ford document makes me wonder if he actually even works very hard. And not only that, it is still damn sneeky how Ford got out of paying verify 60 to alot of dealerships by not publishing it in SLTS.

Stephen, I feel the same way you do. That is why I posted the topic on the Canadian Message board. As for this Chris guy, What did he say on your message board?

That's a good post Keith. Nice and clean. Believe it or not I kept my Canadian topic about it clean as well. Well, as clean as I could. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

Being that you said technician pay is like a game and you feel like a mouse, I'm wondering if we all aren't just running in big friggin wheel like they give to lab mice. Oh my God, We're all freakin lab mice. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/surprise.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crybaby2.gif

Thanks Jeff for explaining that. Aaron, I was going to email you about it to explain it. But this site will explain it quite well. It is a non published labour operation. I used to charge for it on all my diag jobs. However, after a stage two audit and being compared to all the dealerships that either don't know about it or hide it from their technicians to keep their warranty costs down, we were told by the warranty nazi's to quit charging for it. Now with it being cut out completely down in the U.S. we will probably see a memo next weak once it goes through all the French conversions. The reason I had posted it on Protech is because it really P!sses me off that most techs out there did not know about it. And the techs that did know about it and were rightfully charging for it were being discriminated against through the warranty numbers. So I thought I would post a little education about it and lets say Oh....stir the Sh!t a little to see how many techs actually knew about it. So my point was that if all technicians were aware of it and all technicians are treated the same from dealer to dealer, we would all be charging for it and would not have inconsistencies in what we are compared to. But instead, probably ony 20% of technicians knew about it. It was just my way of throwing it back in Ford's face for being all secretive and hiding it from everyone. It is the little things like that the really piss me off. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif Kerry had posted that Three trucks a day at 20 days a month multiplied by 0.6 hours=36 hours a month that he has lost because of it. And I would say that that would be similar for myself. And just like he said, I feel it too. Sorry for swearin so much again Keith.