Brad Clayton

Do your self a favor and check the cam sensor for correct orientation before you do anything else. If this is off the PCM will start firing the SEFI injectors at the wrong time and havoc ensues. Follow the shop manual and set the engine at top dead center for number 1 cylinder and see if the alignment tool will slips on the synchro, if not reset and recheck, if its dead on then I am out of ideas. Just make sure you get your time covered!

I sure hope they got their shit together with the spark plugs this time. I mean for Pete's sake, they can't get it right with one plug per cylinder. Now they have doubled it up. You can see the plug wire running off the coil and over the valve cover to the plug down beside the exhaust manifold in the picture.

Well the mystery is solved and everyone can sleep better tonite. Number 2 rod is bent. Bent just a smidge, but it cocked the piston sideways and allowed alot of blow by. Two things I should have done and didn't: Crankcase blow by test and short term fuel trim test. Oh well water under the bridge now. This truck ran so well it was just hard to believe that there was a base engine problem. Another dealer put an injector in number 2 for an over fueling concern 20k ago.

I like that. Most of the time the Oring stays in the upper pan once the dipstick is out. Amazing how them Orings can bite in.

That'll be enough outa you mister.

Yessir, just did that and air is coming out of turbo drain tubes, so I am now pulling the left head to take a look see.

We dont have a borescope that will fit in the glow plug hole. I was instructed to turn this over to our FSE and to stop working on it until further notice. Sooooo, I am at a stand still.

Here's my latest call log: Quote: Comment from: technician Comment Date: 11/2/2009 10:51:22 AM Just wanted to recheck with you guys on this. I performed manual compression test after the visual on the pipes did not show a concern. i also checked the radial and axial numbers on the turbos and got .020" and .005" on both. The compression numbers have me concerned as well as the crankcase smells like exhaust. Bank 1 is 350, 410, 400, 360, bank 2 is 405, 400, 400, 380. I just called and these numbers did not raise any concerns. Even on the worst running 7.3 I could get an even 400 psi across the board. Comment from: Hotline Comment Date: 11/2/2009 10:54:04 AM Brad, it is normal to see 340-400psi of compression on the 6.4L. The general rule of thumb is that there can not be more then a 25 psi difference from the highest to lowest cylinder. However, normally when there is low compression on a cylinder we push fuel past the rings and over fill the crank case. Check the short fuel trims at a hot idle. If the short fuel trims are within +/-10% then go after a turbo concern and retest for normal operation. If needed contact the hotline by phone to further discuss this issue. What do I do now? Just toss a set a turbos at it? Paint me confused.

That's my though on this. I did the static turbo checks and the radial is about .020" and axial .005" on both turbos, which is within spec. I really am not interested in putting this thing together without finding something.

Well, I got back on this thing today and did a manual compession test. Left bank 350, 410, 400, 360 Right bank 405, 400, 400, 380. Hotline says ok. I was told to do a static turbo check and if nothing there give it back to the customer. Instructing the owner to bring it in everytime he has to add oil so we can do a consumption test. The dude lives an hour away.

Quote: Quote: I don't like Chinese food. What is wrong with you?!?! Americanized Chinese food is the best!!

Amen to that Mike, I meant to put a red circle around the two cut outs in that cover when I uploaded it, but forgot. For what it's worth, that fellow no longer works with us.

Good call fella's. I thought about a crankcase pressure test this moring. The truck is in a million pieces but the cab is still on. So I can block off the turbo oil feed supply and do the compression test without any issues. I'll keep ya posted!

Alright fellas, I'm coming to you with my hat in my hands because this one has got me stumped and I need some help. Usually these engines "make" oil, this one is the opposite. Customer stated that the truck would regen about every 40 miles and blow blue smoke and was using oil. I test drive it and it runs great. I check the pids and get about 36 psi boost, the ect/eot hangs around 185 degrees consistently, its about 30 degrees outside here, and the last regen event was at 42 miles ago. Short stick the oil indicator and nothin. Added 1 quart, nada, added 2 quarts, nope, 3 then 4 and finally 9 quarts brought it to the full mark. Performed a visual inspection and the unit is bone dry on the outside. Put in a letter to the hotline and they said to remove the downpipe and cac hoses to see if oil and a lot of oil was in them. Called the customer and told him we needed the truck for a little while longer and he stated that he has been adding that amount of oil for weeks now. He said it's been to another dealer multiple times and been dismissed. The trucks history is riddled with injector replacements. I pulled the down pipe and it was dry. I pulled the hot cac tube and it had a somewhat normal amount of carry over oil in it. I pulled the up pipes and they were dry. I pulled the turbos and seperated them and nothing out of the ordinary there. I am having trouble wrapping my head around this problem because it defies logic. That is a lot of oil consumption not to see something to indicate the loss. The one thing that is odd, when I pulled the air inlet hose to the turbo the crankcase vent broke off clean at the hose. As I was inspecting it, I got a whiff, and it smells like a tailpipe on a 6.0L. I have never seen this before. Most of the time the tubes smell like burned oil, but exhaust???????? Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated.

IN THEORY, anything is possible.

No CAN, worked on one yesterday and used the trusty old NGS to fix it!

Are you able to monitor ICP voltage instead of ICP pressure? That pid could be giving you a false reading.

Quote: Brad I do hope that you say SOMETHING to SOMEONE at your dealership about this incident Most definetly, I actually am chomping at the bit to get to work tomorrow to investigate this issue.

My neighbor bought a newish Focus the other day. We are good friends with these guys. I noticed the car was bought at a competeing dealer down the road from mine. I didn't ask why, but the wife couldn't hold it in and insisted on sharing the story with me. They traveled to my dealer, which is a good clip from our house, only to be seriously let down. They were thinking the place was an outstanding enterprise, do to my feedback and involvment with fixing their vehicles. If they needed work we would just switch cars and I would drive theirs down to work on it and what not. So, they walk into the sales department and are greeted in a pleasant and "professional" manner. So good so far. Now keep in mind they already know what they want they just gotta find someone with the car and the numbers have to jive. "Hello" says the salesman, "How can I help you folks today". The couple replies, "We are looking to get a new car today, and we were told this is the place to come". "Well you certainly came to the right place, what are you in the market for?" "We're gonna be doing alot of driving and we have decided to get a Ford Focus" The salesman without hesitation fires back "Ford does not make a Focus". The couple looks with a little confusion, "excuse me sir?" Again the salesman replies "They have never made a Focus, at least not in the states, you can get one in Europe though." They reply "we are talking about a Ford Focus right?. Look there goes one down the street" The three watch as a 2000ish model forest green Focus rotted up to the windows motors down the street. "That's not a Focus" replies the "salesman" Well, needless to say my neighbors promptly left and have no intentions of ever returning. WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE AND THE PLACES THAT KEEP THEM ON?

I took the little woman to Vegas with my stimulus package.

No more than normal here. I use that thing to bleed all my brakes, one man job, and it does an incredible job if it.

Just to add to the already excellent ideas, pop the fuel filter cap off and pour an once of leak detector dye in, put the cap back on and run it. Keep your black lite handy cause the leak will show up immediately. There will be no doubt as to where the leak is. The dye never lies. Works good for power steering leaks also, due to the nature of the pressurized fluid.

Yeah just got new glasses in June, they said they could do it but I would still have to wear thinner lens glasses. My eyeballs are shaped like footballs.

we get a half a day a month

I think I'm glad I don't live in South Carolina anymore.